Sebastian

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:00] Speaker B: From probably about 15, 20 years ago now, I think Dodo Life for Wrench had that great CD which was very, very popular, along with a dvd. So that was Dodo. And I forget we had before that. Not that it matters. The most important thing matters now is we have a special guest in the studio just after we've had Esther, who I mistakenly said Easter at one stage anyway. And Esther in before from chorus. Do a great job. Now we have Sebastian. Good morning, Sebastian. [00:00:30] Speaker A: G', day. G', day, G'. [00:00:31] Speaker C: Day. [00:00:31] Speaker A: How are we doing? [00:00:32] Speaker B: We're doing very well and great to have you in the studio for this interview. Tell us a little about. About Sebastian. That's where I like to start. [00:00:42] Speaker C: Oh, Sebastian. [00:00:43] Speaker A: That. There's many layers to Sebastian. I mean, the main part about me [00:00:49] Speaker C: is that I'm very open and outspoken. [00:00:52] Speaker A: So I say whatever is on my mind, that's great. So things can get a bit hectic at times, but there's nothing wrong with that. A little bit of fun. [00:01:05] Speaker B: So at the moment you said things on your mind, you're very outspoken. Have you got a. Like, a particular thing that's come up in the news, or particularly thing you have a passion about the moment that you'd like to bring? [00:01:17] Speaker C: So the main thing I always like [00:01:18] Speaker A: to bring with me is just anything to do with music, really. [00:01:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Just. I've got a knowledge from well beyond my age. I'm 28. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Oh, is that all? [00:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm 28 and I've been. [00:01:31] Speaker C: And I mainly listen to stuff from, [00:01:33] Speaker A: like, the 70s and 80s, like, seriously 90s, you name it. But my main knowledge is with heavy metal and all that nonsense, so. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Oh, it's not nonsense. [00:01:44] Speaker A: I know it's not nonsense. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:45] Speaker A: I just love joking around. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah. It's funny because, you know, there's that. Because I've never been. Well, the farthest. And furthest. Farthest furthest I got into metal was. I got to be honest, it was probably AC dc. So he wouldn't even. He laughed. [00:02:02] Speaker A: So I can't help myself because when I think of acdc, I think of, like, hard rock, blues rock. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Good old Bon Scott back in the day. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Oh, he was a man one day. [00:02:12] Speaker A: I still prefer Bon Scott, if I'm being honest. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Oh, look, I am too. I. Yeah. You know, I like the most about Bon Scott. He's on stage, off stage. Bon Scott was Bon Scott. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Exactly. That's what made Bon Scott unique, made him absolutely amazing. And dude was like five foot nothing as well. [00:02:30] Speaker B: That's right. [00:02:31] Speaker A: He was short as I'm like, that makes me feel better about myself, really. [00:02:35] Speaker B: But he was weird. Like, you know, like, you know, he. He used to do all those cheeky ways. Winks at the camera with his chip tooth and. [00:02:44] Speaker A: But the chip tooth. I love it. I love it. He did, he did. [00:02:50] Speaker B: He did, didn't he? [00:02:52] Speaker A: Go on, you know what? Representing my Fremantle proud as well. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Ah, look, I don't think he portrayed an image because that was his image. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Exactly. Bon Scott was just Bon Scott. What. What else can you say? How can you replace man like Bon Scott? [00:03:12] Speaker C: You can't. [00:03:13] Speaker A: That. That's the answer. It's like, in my opinion, if James Hetfield left Metallica, how can you replace [00:03:21] Speaker C: an iconic front man like that? [00:03:23] Speaker A: You just can't. [00:03:24] Speaker B: No. Now, was it. Oh, I've got to try and think because I say my knowledge of anything beyond box, mind you, I have got a, A, A tune lined up by. Afterwards by a. I, I think they're. Is it death metal? Is that. Are you into death metal as well? [00:03:40] Speaker A: I love death metal. That's literally what I do. I scream, I sing, I do all that nonsense. I've been doing it since I was like 13 years old. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:51] Speaker A: So. Trained my voice to do that from [00:03:55] Speaker C: a very young age. [00:03:56] Speaker A: Because that's just what I love. Like, I love that stuff. I love things that push the boundaries. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Because that's what I do myself. I love pushing the boundaries. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:07] Speaker A: So no one knows what to expect. Yeah. So I think that's a beautiful thing about, say, metal, jazz, blues, all that. Just pushing the boundaries. [00:04:18] Speaker C: And I mean, if you look at the roots of metal and hard rock, [00:04:22] Speaker A: it's blues, it's delta blues. Yeah. Like from back in the 1920s and 30s. Wow. So that's literally where rock really started. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Then it just evolutionized as it went on. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Is there anybody who would be your favorite? Metallica or Metallica, however you pronounce it. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Metalica. I like that. I like that. I'm gonna use that from now on, I think. What bad do you like metal? Ika. Yeah. Let's go. No, probably Slipknot. Slipknot is probably one of my favorite, [00:05:03] Speaker C: if not my favorite band. [00:05:04] Speaker A: They're the band that really pushed the [00:05:07] Speaker C: boundaries for me because I was into the. [00:05:10] Speaker A: You, like you said, AC dc. Yeah. [00:05:12] Speaker C: Metallica. Bands like Pantera. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah, all that. [00:05:16] Speaker C: Iron Maiden, not so much, but I don't mind Iron Maiden, but definitely Slipknot, [00:05:23] Speaker A: the band that really pushed it. Once I got into metal, I read [00:05:28] Speaker B: something and please correct me, I'm Wrong. Because I realize my knowledge of metal is your file. I think I read something that. Because my. My youngest daughter. Which is probably not heavy metal, but. [00:05:43] Speaker C: Right. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Is. And the reason I mentioned it is Blink 182. [00:05:48] Speaker C: Oh, I love Blink 1A2. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Do you? [00:05:50] Speaker A: Not so good live. But I absolutely love them and I [00:05:53] Speaker B: think they had an interview with him and I think one of the. Sort of. The lead singer, the. The guitarist, I'm not too sure, said that that Slipknot was really great for them to learn how to play music and the. The break that they gave them. [00:06:11] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:06:12] Speaker B: That. [00:06:12] Speaker A: That's interesting. And surprisingly, I've never heard that myself. I wouldn't expect that from Blink1. Air too. [00:06:18] Speaker C: Maybe the drummer. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Because Travis Barker, like, as great of [00:06:23] Speaker C: a drummer as he is in punk, he absolutely loves his metal as well. He's done a few like, covers of like hard rock metal stuff or in that style. Like he did a cover of a [00:06:36] Speaker A: Soldier Boy song in the. [00:06:37] Speaker C: In a rap rock style where it made it heavier. But he absolutely loves Metallica. [00:06:43] Speaker A: He was there at the Icon show with Chester Bennington from Lincoln park. So. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Does he. Because you mentioned the drummer from Sleep. No, I'm not going to ask a question because I don't know. Does he have any tattoos? [00:06:59] Speaker A: Excuse my language. He has a lot of tattoos. Has a lot of tattoos. [00:07:04] Speaker C: Actually. [00:07:04] Speaker A: No, sorry. They just got a new drummer. He has his arms done, but I don't think as many as their last drummer. Yeah, but I know the singer, Corey Taylor. That man is a goddamn legend. He's absolutely covered. Yeah. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Big one on his chest, some on his arms, some on his neck. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Jeez. So Slipknot, not so much. Iron Maiden. [00:07:27] Speaker A: No, I. I can respect it. Like, that dude's got an amazing voice, but not a huge fan. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah. What was. What was it? They had a hit. Didn't like commercial hit. Didn't they? [00:07:39] Speaker C: Iron man from Run for the Hills maybe, or. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:07:44] Speaker C: Number of the Beast. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker C: There's been a few in the early to mid-80s that were just off the charts, but probably Run to the Hills. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Okay. Run, yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker A: To the Hills. Yeah, that nonsense. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Oh, do remember it. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I know that song well. [00:08:02] Speaker C: Because as much as I don't, I'm not a overly big fan. [00:08:08] Speaker A: I don't mind some of their music. [00:08:09] Speaker C: Slight. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Judas Priest, all that. [00:08:11] Speaker B: I was going to say that. Yeah. Who's the one who. Who did you. I'm. As I say, I'm just asking random questions. Pavlov's dog. [00:08:19] Speaker A: Pavlov. I Don't think I've heard of that. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Oh, geez. Okay. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Surprisingly enough, I have not heard of that. [00:08:26] Speaker B: So if we go back and you mentioned that you liked a lot of this before you were born, being such a youngster that you are. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I feel it sometimes. Other times I'm like, I shouldn't be my age. [00:08:40] Speaker B: So what. What music from the 70s? [00:08:44] Speaker A: Oh. First one I can think of is Stevie Wonder. [00:08:49] Speaker B: People in music are so random. I would have thought, anybody but Stevie Wonder. And yet you've come up with Stevie Wonder. [00:08:55] Speaker A: I love Steve. I was literally listening to Stevie the other day. Absolutely loves Stevie. Like, he's one of. Up there with some of my favorite musicians. Like, I mean, you got the Billy Joel. Absolutely love Billy Joel. That dude's an absolute legend. Legend. [00:09:13] Speaker B: Why do you love Billy Joel? [00:09:14] Speaker C: It's just the. The storytelling in his writing, the how [00:09:18] Speaker A: he uses his voice, the emotion. You can feel his music. [00:09:23] Speaker C: And that's what I absolutely love in [00:09:27] Speaker A: musicians, especially back from the 80s, 70s, even some. A little bit of the 60s. It's just the emotion in the voice can't be beat. And it's just so raw. It's the rawness that grabs me, like. Oh, that's absolutely beautiful. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Okay, so you. Is your. Is your collection of music. Vast. [00:09:51] Speaker C: Very bipolar. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah, very bipolar. I have everything from metal to techno to jazz to blues to soul. I mean, the other day I was listening to. What's that group, the Chat? The Tramps. Okay, let's go. [00:10:07] Speaker C: Inferno. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Burn, baby, burn. Discover. Yeah, that. That nonsense. [00:10:14] Speaker B: You know what, it's funny because I'm a great believer that. And I am that. You know, you say nonsense and that rubbish, but it's not. [00:10:24] Speaker A: It's not. It's really not that. [00:10:25] Speaker C: That's just how I speak. [00:10:26] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I say nonsense just instead of saying etc. [00:10:31] Speaker C: Yeah, that's just how I say. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:34] Speaker A: And so on and so forth. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Look. [00:10:37] Speaker B: But that's. That's interest. Tramps and Stevie Wonder. [00:10:41] Speaker A: I listen to everything. [00:10:42] Speaker C: I mean, I was saying before even my. [00:10:46] Speaker A: My mum was a big fan of the Dead Kennedys. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:50] Speaker C: So I was listening. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I was listening to the Dead Kennedys and stuff as well. I mean, stuff like Police Truck, Holiday in Cambodia, all that cut and all [00:11:00] Speaker C: that kind of stuff. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Like, especially grew up playing video games. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Like, I did one of my favorite games of all time, Tony Hawks. It's just nothing but punk music. A little bit of music, a little bit of metal as well, but mainly punk. So that's how I found bands like. Yeah, like I said, Dan Kedney's Rage [00:11:23] Speaker A: Against Machine, things like that. [00:11:25] Speaker C: That's how I found those bands. [00:11:28] Speaker A: Who was. Purely from video games or skating videos. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Okay, so you say. Because you've got. You've got to realize here, Sebastian, that I'm my knowledge to say. It's. It's really scant. So what about, just. What about the. You talk punk. What about the Sex Pistols? [00:11:49] Speaker A: I don't mind the Sex Pistols. [00:11:51] Speaker C: They're not too bad. I mean, I'll be honest, I'm not [00:11:55] Speaker A: too big on British. British punk. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:58] Speaker C: More for American punk. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:00] Speaker C: But there are some good, really good British bands out there. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Sex Pistols, they. [00:12:07] Speaker C: They didn't even call themselves punk. It was the media that came up with the term. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:14] Speaker C: That's how they got called punk. And they're like, what the hell is this? [00:12:19] Speaker A: We're just playing music. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:22] Speaker B: But they were really rebellious. [00:12:24] Speaker A: They were, they were. And God, their, their dental hygiene was something else. [00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Oh, it's interesting. So is there anybody. Stevie Wonder and Billy Joel? I would sort of. As a music. I like music too. Do you look Elton John. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Love Elton John. Love Elton John, Benny and the jets and all that nonsense. That. That's great. I love it. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Geez. So it's quite diverse, isn't it? [00:12:55] Speaker A: I got a very diverse music taste. Very diverse. [00:12:59] Speaker B: You do. So who would be. Who would be somebody of. Is there anybody of the modern ilk that you go, yeah, they're okay. You know what? Play some of their music. [00:13:14] Speaker C: Oh, God. Well, I mean, everyone's doing rap these days and I'm not a huge fan of rap music. Like, I can respect certain artists like Eminem and I like Eminem. [00:13:25] Speaker A: He's really love Eminem. [00:13:27] Speaker C: He's amazing. And he's starting to make a comeback. [00:13:29] Speaker A: And I'm very, very for it because Sebastian and 8 years old, his first CD was the Eminem Show. And like that. That's not good for an eight year old. But it's amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. [00:13:42] Speaker B: His lyrics. [00:13:43] Speaker A: He's absolutely amazing. [00:13:45] Speaker B: He is. And he can bend words. [00:13:47] Speaker C: And you know, at the moment it'd [00:13:50] Speaker A: probably be Denzel Curry. [00:13:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:53] Speaker C: He's. It's a rapper from Miami. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:56] Speaker C: But that dude can do anything. I've heard him do, heard him sing. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I've heard him do metal covers. I've heard him do everything. [00:14:06] Speaker C: So I respect people that don't put [00:14:11] Speaker A: themselves in a box. [00:14:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:14] Speaker C: That can. [00:14:14] Speaker A: That show people they could do everything. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Yep. [00:14:17] Speaker A: That don't listen to what the record producers say. Yeah, should do this, you should do that. [00:14:23] Speaker C: No, I'm gonna do what the hell I want. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:26] Speaker A: And that's what he does. And I respect it. [00:14:29] Speaker B: That's a rarity, isn't it? It is a rarity because a lot of. A lot of artists go in there to do their own thing. They become a little bit famous. And in a record company's. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that's literally it. They just let the record companies take over. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker C: And I'm like, no, be yourself. [00:14:47] Speaker B: And that's hard. It really is hard because being yourself means that you want to get any money in some. In a lot of cases. [00:14:54] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:14:55] Speaker A: You know, and that's where the underground [00:14:59] Speaker C: really has taken over these days. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:01] Speaker C: Because a lot of the artists that are kind of big with the kids now are mainly independent, are mainly from the underground. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker C: And then they get big. They might keep doing the same thing or they'll change. And it's a testament to the ones that really dig in their feet. It's like, yeah, no, I'm not changing. I'm just being unapologetically myself. [00:15:28] Speaker B: I've got two artists right. About who a little bit not mainstream, little bit left to center. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:15:34] Speaker B: I'm going to ask you about. One of them's passed away. I think it would be Lou Reed. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Ah, see, I never got into Lou Reed. No, no. Like, I respect him as a writer and whatever. Never, never really go into him. I think the only song I really know is Take a Walk on the Wild side. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Everybody says, okay, what about Nick Cave? [00:15:56] Speaker A: Nick Cave, he's a very interesting character, isn't he? That. That's literally the best way I would explain Nick Cave. [00:16:05] Speaker C: Like, as much as I love the golf, the gothic culture and whatever, like, that's the culture that I personally identify with. [00:16:15] Speaker A: I've never been an overly big fan [00:16:17] Speaker C: of Nick Cave, but my God, how [00:16:20] Speaker A: low his voice can get. Gives me chills. Gives me absolute chills. I mean, the main song I really know is because of the movie Scream. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:32] Speaker C: Red Right Hand. [00:16:34] Speaker A: I think that's the song. [00:16:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not sure. [00:16:36] Speaker C: I'm not too sure. [00:16:37] Speaker A: But he also did that song with Kylie Minogue. [00:16:39] Speaker B: He did, didn't he? [00:16:40] Speaker C: Yes, he did. [00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:41] Speaker C: I can't remember how it went, but [00:16:43] Speaker A: I do remember he did a song with Kylie Minogue. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I. I can't play on air, but one of my favorite series is More News from Nowhere. It's goes about seven and a half minutes. It's a really weird song. [00:16:56] Speaker C: Oh, I got to give that a listen then. [00:16:58] Speaker B: More news from nowhere. It's just. It's quirky, you know? [00:17:02] Speaker C: Well, that's why I love. I love quirky stuff. The avant garde kind of stuff. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:07] Speaker C: Like, I mean, one of my favorite artists of all time, dude, I worship as an absolute God, is Mike Patton. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:16] Speaker A: Singer of Faith no More. Okay. That dude can do absolutely anything. [00:17:21] Speaker C: Like, absolutely anything. I've heard him do metal and rock. Right. [00:17:26] Speaker A: But I've also heard him do French opera. [00:17:30] Speaker C: I've heard him do lounge music. I've heard him do jazz music. Kel the Movie I Am Legend with Will Smith. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:38] Speaker C: He did all the voices of the monsters in that. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Really? [00:17:43] Speaker A: Dude is off the charts. [00:17:45] Speaker C: Unbelievable. So I worship that man as an absolute God because he could do absolutely anything. [00:17:52] Speaker A: I don't think there's anything I've seen he can't do. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Okay. Now they. If they had a. They had a hit a cover version of other song, didn't they? [00:18:05] Speaker A: They. [00:18:05] Speaker C: Their biggest song was epic. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:08] Speaker C: But they also did a cover. [00:18:10] Speaker A: So Faith no More did a cover [00:18:11] Speaker C: of War Pigs, Black Sabbath. [00:18:14] Speaker B: It wasn't. Was there another one they. [00:18:17] Speaker C: Yes. And Easy. [00:18:18] Speaker B: That's it. The Ilona Richie song. [00:18:20] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I thought there was one in there, though. You. I hadn't heard the other two. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Little known fact. [00:18:26] Speaker C: I used to sing that live. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Did you? [00:18:28] Speaker C: Yeah, back in the day, so. But one of my old sport workers loved it so much, kept on requesting [00:18:36] Speaker A: it, and I'm like, I hate that song now. I love the song, but I hate it. I hate singing. [00:18:42] Speaker B: I know. I just imagine how, you know, like you mentioned before, Billy Joel. Just imagine, like, every concert he goes, and he's got to make it sound as if it's the first time that you've heard it. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:18:55] Speaker C: And that's. It's the same reason why Radiohead refuses to play the song. Creep. I. [00:19:02] Speaker B: All right. [00:19:02] Speaker C: Yeah. They. They absolutely hate it. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:06] Speaker C: Like, he can't stand that song. [00:19:08] Speaker A: It's like, so he cringes whenever people [00:19:11] Speaker C: tell him to play. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Creep. It's like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. [00:19:17] Speaker B: So you say you do still do a little bit of performing, Sebastian. [00:19:23] Speaker C: I'm trying to get back into it at the moment. Me and my good friends, who I've known since I was probably about 17, he's a year younger than me, we've always had this hard rock metal project going on. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:19:38] Speaker C: And we lost contact for about. I'm gonna say, a good Part of a decade. Right. Because he was off doing indie stuff and whatever. I'm not a huge fan of indie, but I'm like, do what you need to do. Like, I respect it. And he's an amazing musician, that kid. But we've just got back together recently. Right. And we just. We recorded a song, I'm gonna say, two or three months ago. And we're working on more music at the moment to try and put out an ep, then eventually an album. And we're just trying to get musicians together pretty much. [00:20:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:17] Speaker C: Like, we wanted to be mainly me and him or him and I, if I'm using good English to be the main songwriters and whatever and just have other musicians to play with live. But I'm always happy to hear what people have to say. Like, I love getting advice because how are we going to learn if we don't get that advice? [00:20:42] Speaker B: That's the thing, isn't it? [00:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:44] Speaker B: You know? Yeah. Had a. A lady in here two or three weeks ago, and she was. Sorry, colleges. And she said, people say, if you're gonna do a job, do it good. [00:20:56] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. I'm wholeheartedly behind that. [00:20:58] Speaker B: But she also said, sebastian, if you got to do a job, it's okay to do it bad for two reasons. One, you've had a go that's a magnet. And the second thing is, if you do it bad, you know what you've done wrong and you can do it again. [00:21:13] Speaker C: Exactly. Like, I'm the kind of person that likes learning on the job to do things. Like, I can't, because I used to do sound production. And back when I was 18, soon as I left high school pretty much. And I had to drop out of it because it made me hate music because I'm just not good in that area. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:36] Speaker C: Like. And I can be open and admit that I'm a performer. This is what I feel like I was put on this earth to do. To be somewhat entertaining. [00:21:46] Speaker B: Yep. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Something like some more. [00:21:48] Speaker A: I might not be completely entertaining, but there's a tad there. That's a tad. [00:21:53] Speaker B: So it has to be. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:21:55] Speaker B: And as people enjoy it and you enjoy it. [00:21:58] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:21:59] Speaker B: It doesn't matter, does it, really? [00:22:01] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:02] Speaker C: That's why I do music. Because I'm like, I'm not in it to earn fame, earn money or anything. I just want to play music. I love it. Like, that's been my passion. Hell, I remember being five years old singing Bloody Jamiroquai. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Oh, God, that goes back a while. [00:22:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Literally. [00:22:20] Speaker A: I love Jamiroquai. This is another face of Sebastian. This is what I mean, there's so many faces to me because, I mean, [00:22:28] Speaker C: I love Bob Marley as well. Bob Marley's one of my favorite musicians of all time. [00:22:34] Speaker B: You know, like, it's funny, you come in here and there's another chap who's on here too, Mitch. He's really into heavy metal and. And death metal. And I interviewed him. He came in, he has a show as well. He came in and a guy love all music. Like. Yeah, well, what sort of music? He goes, everything. I said, well, give me an idea. He said, like D. Martin. [00:22:57] Speaker C: Okay. [00:22:58] Speaker B: What? He said, I like Dean Martin and I like this poke and this fuck is a bit. They're so far away from. From your sort of. He said, yeah, but I just like them. [00:23:07] Speaker A: It is like. [00:23:09] Speaker C: This is a very misunderstood concept about metalheads. They're like, they only listen to heavy stuff, blah, blah, blah. No, metalheads are probably one of the most eclectic people that you'll find. Like, we'll listen to pretty much everything. Yeah, we've got very strong opinions of what we don't like. That's what we're mainly known for. But we listen to absolutely everything. It's like one of my favorite bands, right? The drummer. I still remember this story because I remember hearing it from the singer, right? It's like his drummer said to him, he's like, oh, would it be okay [00:23:46] Speaker A: if I put a Billy Joel patch on my jacket? He's like, dude, do whatever the hell you want. Like, that's completely fine. [00:23:55] Speaker C: That shows, like this dude, this drummer, amazing drum in this death metal band. [00:24:00] Speaker A: It's like just like absolutely loved Billy Joel. [00:24:04] Speaker B: Well, it's, it's. It sort of goes hand in hand with story. My son in law's brother, if that makes any sense at all. He's. He's a heavy metal, death metal freak, you know. And he just. We went to his box party and had all this music on. I go, yeah. And. And then I started chatting and I said, is there any other sort of music? And he said, I'm not joking. He said, oh. He said, I like Billy Joel. I go, what? You go, no, no. He said, like Billy Joel. And he goes, I like Michael Jackson as well. [00:24:32] Speaker A: Oh, nothing wrong with that. [00:24:34] Speaker B: And I thought, hold on. Like, that's just such a diversion. [00:24:39] Speaker C: It is such a diversion. Like, I'm not gonna lie. Like, this is what we are. Like. Like a lot of us will say, [00:24:47] Speaker A: yeah, we're absolute metalheads. We love all this. Next thing you'll Be like, oh, is that Michael Jack? Oh, that's awesome. Like, you'll see. It's a dude that you don't expect. Soon as, like, say, Billie Jean is on. [00:25:04] Speaker C: Right? [00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker A: He'll be in the corner being like, billie Jean is not my love. And you're like, where did this come from? [00:25:13] Speaker B: That's exactly right, isn't it? [00:25:15] Speaker A: It's so true. [00:25:16] Speaker B: And the thing is, Sebastian is like, me talking about heavy metal and death metal is. I'll go away and I learn something not only about the music that you like, but also how it diverse. [00:25:29] Speaker A: It is so diverse. You know, like, there's a joke. It's a. There's a running joke. [00:25:35] Speaker C: It's like, soon as, like, you think you know one thing, another sub genre pops up. [00:25:40] Speaker A: There's so many sub genres that pop up. [00:25:43] Speaker B: They are. There, isn't there? [00:25:45] Speaker A: There is. It's like, what's this? Oh, industrial doom, death rash. What the hell is that? Like, are you just putting words together right now? [00:25:57] Speaker B: Here's another. I'm gonna ask you all these groups because I like your opinion, because they weren't. They were mainstream, but they weren't mainstream. But they were. What about Dire Straits? [00:26:08] Speaker C: I like Dire Straits. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Dire Straits are great. Absolutely great. [00:26:13] Speaker C: I don't think there's a song I've heard by them that I don't like. [00:26:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:17] Speaker C: Honestly speaking, like, it's just really. And the dude's a really good guitarist as well. [00:26:24] Speaker B: He isn't. [00:26:24] Speaker C: Yeah, fantastic. So. [00:26:27] Speaker A: But that's a good thing for me [00:26:29] Speaker C: to chill out to. Like, if I'm just fried out from listening to metal for a bit, right? [00:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:35] Speaker C: I'll be like, oh, what do I put on? Do I put on this? Do I put on that? And once in a while I'll play a Dire Straits. [00:26:42] Speaker B: It's funny because you were talking about artists who do their own thing, and I. I've sort of delved a little bit into Mark Knopfler, and he is one of those artists who, I think you probably don't even know that. You may know the name. There was, like, a country artist, he must be about 95 now, called Chad Atkins, who was a country music. [00:27:07] Speaker C: And that's a good old age as well. [00:27:09] Speaker B: And Mark Knoffler said, I'll do an album with him. [00:27:11] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:27:12] Speaker B: You can't do an album with him. Mark is your. Like, you're Mr. Popular. He goes, I want to do it. And then he did a content last along with Emmy Lou Harris, who's a famous and he just says. And he said, I wrote a movie score for a film. Well, you can't do that. You shouldn't be doing it. That's what I want to do. I think, like, you're. What you're saying that's a good thing? [00:27:31] Speaker C: No, it is a good thing. And I'll be honest. I don't know much about country music. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Music. I know. [00:27:35] Speaker B: No, I'm. [00:27:36] Speaker A: No, no. [00:27:37] Speaker C: I'm just saying, like, it's like, I only know the bare minimum because I don't listen to it much. But, like, Johnny Cash and all that. [00:27:45] Speaker B: Like. [00:27:47] Speaker C: Like, as much as I am not a huge fan, I'm like, johnny Cash is absolutely amazing. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Had that big, deep voice. [00:27:54] Speaker C: That's it. It's the. And it didn't sound, like, typical, because the one thing that gets me with country, and I'll be honest here, is the twang. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:28:03] Speaker C: I'm not a huge fan of the twang. So. [00:28:05] Speaker B: So it is. [00:28:07] Speaker C: It's. [00:28:08] Speaker A: It is a twang. [00:28:10] Speaker C: But artists like him, Kenny Rogers, all that, they didn't have an overly powering twang. And it was. The music is beautiful. I mean. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:22] Speaker C: Who doesn't like the Gambler? [00:28:23] Speaker A: Like, who doesn't like the Gambler? [00:28:26] Speaker B: God. You know, all these songs. [00:28:27] Speaker A: But. But it's honest. I mean, that song is absolutely amazing. [00:28:31] Speaker C: Like. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:33] Speaker C: Oh, even me, if I'm just chilling out and it comes on, I would [00:28:38] Speaker A: just break out into. [00:28:39] Speaker B: There you go. [00:28:40] Speaker C: Because I'm like, I love that song. [00:28:42] Speaker A: It's amazing. [00:28:43] Speaker C: Same with Dolly Parton. [00:28:45] Speaker B: She's a legend. [00:28:46] Speaker A: She's an absolute. And she's a beautiful person. [00:28:49] Speaker B: Seems to me. Don't she from. [00:28:50] Speaker A: She's an absolute beautiful person. [00:28:52] Speaker C: She's a doll. [00:28:54] Speaker B: And she never forgot where she came from. [00:28:56] Speaker A: No, that. That's what makes her absolutely amazing. [00:28:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:00] Speaker C: She knows her roots. She knows where she came from. [00:29:02] Speaker B: And some would get. Yeah, yeah. [00:29:05] Speaker C: So, like, this is me. This is why I'm like, yo. [00:29:07] Speaker A: Like, I gotta. [00:29:09] Speaker C: I look up to artists like this because I can absolutely respect. [00:29:12] Speaker B: I'm much the same. Like. Yeah. Much the same. You know, like, you are what you are. [00:29:18] Speaker C: No, no, that's exactly it. [00:29:20] Speaker A: And with me, I'm a lot of different things because I got raised on so many. So much different music. I mean. [00:29:27] Speaker C: Well, I was gonna say Lenny Kravitz. I absolutely love Lenny Kravitz. Lenny Kravitz is amazing. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Like, bringing up what he's like. [00:29:38] Speaker C: Mom always used to play him, like, all the time. And how I said Jamariquai. [00:29:42] Speaker A: Jamiroquai was his. Her cleaning music. Whenever she turned on the vacuum, there'd always be either Jamiroquire or red or chili peppers in the background. [00:29:53] Speaker B: When your mum was playing Jamara Koai when she was vacuum, is that how you got sucked in that music? [00:30:00] Speaker A: I see what you did there. I like it, I like it. Oh, who doesn't love a good dad joke? I love that. [00:30:08] Speaker B: That's right, you got to do them in. [00:30:11] Speaker A: The worse the dad joke the better in my opinion. [00:30:15] Speaker B: I think actually sometimes they're clever the way they're playing words. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:30:19] Speaker B: You like. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Exactly. Rich puns are amazing. Like I, I can't live without puns. I have to make at least good [00:30:26] Speaker C: one or two puns a day even [00:30:29] Speaker A: about my own disability as well. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Like you did before when they were trying to set your mark up, you know, so, so I mean look, and it depends on what you like. I mean, you know, we are what we are. Exactly. And does it matter? Hold on, when I say it doesn't matter. Of course it matters. I don't mean enough hand way but doesn't matter about the person is what I mean. [00:30:55] Speaker A: No, it doesn't matter about the person. [00:30:57] Speaker C: You know, you could be anything you want. Hell, I've met people that you wouldn't expect to be into one thing and [00:31:03] Speaker A: when you hear them talk, you're like, wait, you're actually into that? Wait, what? [00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I'm living. [00:31:10] Speaker A: I wouldn't pick this. Like you just look at a person, you're like making your own thoughts. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Like everyone may always. No matter who you're talking about, we all look at someone and say, yeah, they're going to be into this, they're going to be into that. [00:31:23] Speaker B: That's right. [00:31:24] Speaker C: Let's make our own perceptions, perceptions about people, own little self judgments and whatever. Then when you talk to the person you're like. It reminds me of that old saying, you never judge a book by its cover because it's true. Like you might think someone is something and then next minute you're like holy crap. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Okay, I was so wrong. [00:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it, you know, and you see a rather rough looking bloke at the shops with, you know, everyone, everything and everything and oh my goodness, and he can be the kindest soul on the earth. [00:31:53] Speaker C: It's so true. It's so true. It's usually the hardest ones that are actually the nicest people as well. Yeah, this is why like I really associate with everyone because I don't. Because I met people that especially my condition. Because Just case people don't know what they want and probably won't. I'm in a wheelchair, so I've got cerebral palsy. [00:32:14] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:15] Speaker C: I've met some people that you would be like, maybe you should stay away from this person. But they're the person that will actually help you out. You know what I mean? [00:32:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:28] Speaker C: Like, you look at them, they're like, oh, maybe this person's trouble. Next minute they're the only one helping you. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:33] Speaker C: Compared to everyone else. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:35] Speaker C: Around. [00:32:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:37] Speaker C: And that's why you just cannot judge people. [00:32:40] Speaker B: No, you can't. [00:32:41] Speaker C: No, you can't. Like you don't know. And this is at the other saying you don't know what people are going through as well. [00:32:48] Speaker B: No, that's the other thing too, isn't it? [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker B: You know, like. Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. It's just as you get old, as I've got older, I realize that, you know, that person who is angry at the shops, you don't know what sort of morning they've had, what they've come through, you know, so maybe they're just playing off a little bit of steam and. But it's easy to preach prejudge. [00:33:08] Speaker A: It is easier to prejudge because that's [00:33:11] Speaker C: just our first response. Because we're trying to. Our brain is trying to make up a decision why they're acting like that towards us. It's our own egotistical kind of concept that we have. We're like, it's not our fault, it's their fault. And that's just our brain trying to make ourselves feel better. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yep, it's. Couldn't agree more. Well, we're just about to wind up, if that's okay with you, Sebastian. [00:33:38] Speaker A: That's completely fine. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Have you enjoyed it? [00:33:41] Speaker C: Yeah, no, this has been good. It's been fun. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:44] Speaker C: Talking about random stuff. Like I like. I like this concept. Just talk about anything like, well, that's it. [00:33:50] Speaker B: And you can exchange ideas. Like, you know, like I've learned now that you, you really like Stevie Wonder and you really like Billy Joel and you know, and you really like Snipknot and you really like. I'm going to say Metallica. [00:34:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:04] Speaker A: Not metal. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Like that. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Like I like that. I. I think I prefer that. Especially these days. They're not what they used to be, I can tell you that. So they're definitely met like a. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Well, it was funny. Just as close. And this is totally something irrelevant. Right. My son in law is a heavy metal fan and this at the other and his daughter who's now 12. There's a reason why I'm saying this. His daughter's now 12, right. And she comes across and visits on Sunday, and she has a Corn T shirt on, [00:34:42] Speaker A: which is kind of funny because I'm literally wearing a Corn T shirt. [00:34:47] Speaker B: That just shows you how music spans generations. [00:34:50] Speaker A: All I can say is follow, follow the leader, which is the shirt that I'm wearing. [00:34:54] Speaker C: It's a fantastic album. Like, I, as much as bass players, are kind of a joke in rock and metal music, it's kind of like, oh, who needs a bass player? [00:35:06] Speaker A: They're all crap anyway. All that kind of nonsense. But no, in all seriousness, Fieldy, the [00:35:11] Speaker C: bass player of korn, absolutely amazing. One of the best bass players I've seen in my entire life, because I really love slap bass. [00:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:21] Speaker C: Slap bass, for me, is where it's at. [00:35:23] Speaker A: It's funky, it's groovy. Yeah, absolutely. Love it. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Okay, well, I'm going to go. I'm gonna go and listen to Slap Face. Not now. I haven't got it on here. And when I go home, I'm going to look it up on YouTube and play it. Meantime, seeing we're into the heavy metal, here's a song by this man was a heavy metal man. I think it's disturbed.